tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post116239210330652174..comments2023-11-02T05:16:59.191-04:00Comments on Briques du Neige: Two wongs...OlmanFeelyushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17521657876810568251noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1163514125815160852006-11-14T09:22:00.000-05:002006-11-14T09:22:00.000-05:00Fair enough.Fair enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1163509114406407032006-11-14T07:58:00.000-05:002006-11-14T07:58:00.000-05:00Thanks :-P Master. I wish I had more time to post...Thanks :-P Master. I wish I had more time to post these days, because living in Quebec (hell, living in Canada) gives one a lot to think about. :)<BR/><BR/>My poutine picture is not an ethnic reference, but a regional one. Poutine is a cultural element of Quebec, shared by all quebecois no matter what there racial background. Fortune cookies and certain facial features depicted in the cartoons are linked specifically to one ethnic group and often in a historically negative connotation.<BR/><BR/>You do have an argument to make. That picture in the Devoir is not as bad as the one in the Journal, which really made me do a double-take when I first saw it. Unfortunately, I couldn't find a copy of it anywhere.<BR/><BR/>Whether it is "political-correctness" masking an extant racism below the surface or whether it is a sign of greater sensitivity and culture awareness, I do not think a major newspaper in english speaking Canada would have used fortune cookies in an editorial cartoon which dealt with a celebrity of asian descent. I think most editors would immediately flag it as potentially offensive. <BR/><BR/>That it isn't flagged in the Devoir or the Journal and that many quebecers continue to defend it as just a caricature is further sign of a need for greater awareness. I can tell you that most Canadians of asian descent would find the fortune cookie reference insulting. And that is where you draw the line.OlmanFeelyushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17521657876810568251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1163436273805904192006-11-13T11:44:00.000-05:002006-11-13T11:44:00.000-05:00Your message appears to me to be quite valid; howe...Your message appears to me to be quite valid; however, how is the representation of fortune cookies any different from the use of poutine in the picture you've posted?<BR/><BR/>I didn't see the other cartoon you've referenced so I wouldn't comment on it. As for the one that is posted, should the caricature have been drawn with round eyes? At first glance, I think many would be confused as to why Jerry Lewis was sitting in front of a box of fortune cookies. What is the line between satire and racism? What would be an appropriate visual depiction? I think valid discussions on race and racism often get sidetracked thanks to microanalysis.<BR/><BR/>By the way...<BR/>thoughtful blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1162837127529250212006-11-06T13:18:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:18:00.000-05:00The same can be said of those of asian descent, th...The same can be said of those of asian descent, though. One of the most racist guys I've ever known was from Hong Kong. Racism isn't restricted to one ethnic background-it's found in all of them.Al B Herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693007977951992225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1162807918537302172006-11-06T05:11:00.000-05:002006-11-06T05:11:00.000-05:00It is not surprising that a Francophile society ha...It is not surprising that a Francophile society has an underlying tone of almost institutionalized racism. After all, look at the French who are some of the most racist people in the world.Buzbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10910617923053008744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1162490148932663522006-11-02T12:55:00.000-05:002006-11-02T12:55:00.000-05:00Aha! I found it. Her father does, indeed, own a ...Aha! I found it. Her father does, indeed, own a chinese restaurant in town. Check out a related link <A HREF="http://www.ccnc.ca/content/pr.php?entry=87" REL="nofollow">here</A>Al B Herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693007977951992225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8777096.post-1162489668743042652006-11-02T12:47:00.000-05:002006-11-02T12:47:00.000-05:00Just a sidenote here, but I believe the fortune co...Just a sidenote here, but I believe the fortune cookies were a thinly veiled reference to Jan Wong's father who, if I've heard correctly from some relatives, owns (or did own) a chinese restaurant in Montreal at one point. There's probably more to the story, but my mind is fuzzy at the moment.Al B Herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693007977951992225noreply@blogger.com